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		<title>By: gsm</title>
		<link>http://www.anujgakhar.com/2009/04/04/ides-for-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-14699</link>
		<dc:creator>gsm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not finding any free version for Ruby In Steel, but 60 days trial. Could you tell me how to get free version of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not finding any free version for Ruby In Steel, but 60 days trial. Could you tell me how to get free version of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Budden</title>
		<link>http://www.anujgakhar.com/2009/04/04/ides-for-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Budden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 20:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compilr is an online IDE that lets you compile Ruby from your web browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compilr is an online IDE that lets you compile Ruby from your web browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.anujgakhar.com/2009/04/04/ides-for-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-6192</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up and in new wonderful year !</description>
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		<title>By: Nirav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use XCode

Check this out:

http://developer.apple.com/tools/developonrailsleopard.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use XCode</p>
<p>Check this out:</p>
<p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/tools/developonrailsleopard.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/tools/developonrailsleopard.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anuj Gakhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anuj Gakhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info here guys, thanks a lot.</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.anujgakhar.com/2009/04/04/ides-for-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used 3rd Rail and Netbeans.

3rd Rail: This was by far the most promising when Borland created it but what&#039;s killed it is the stuff that is wrapped around the Java to ensure licenses are paid. This breaks the Java and on my Ubuntu 64 bit system means that for me both JBuilder (which I loved using) and 3rd Rail were killed off completely. Which is a huge pity because these two IDEs are absolutely awesome. 3rd Rail in particular could have been the only player in town IMHO.

Netbeans. Well, what can I say? I tried and tried to get 6.5.1 to work properly but, the bottom line, is that Netbeans is a Java development environment with Ruby rammed onto it. It doesn&#039;t do just about everything that you would expect an IDE to do. Effectively you have a not-great text editor with context sensitive code completion that is basic at best, nowhere near, for example, the stellar implementation in JBuilder or 3rd Rail.

Then there are all the problems with trying to run JRuby in it. In short, forget it. Doesn&#039;t work. Creating a project simply doesn&#039;t work. The gems system is broken. In fact, it all is. I have spent weeks upon weeks hunting down obscure errors, misleading output and minimal help online trying to get the most basic of Rails projects created. I succeeded in getting one project shoe horned into existence but only through effectively bypassing everything and anything from the IDE side, hand cranking the creation at the command line and fixing things in vi.

Netbeans does have Rails support, yes. But in version 6.5.1 it is pre-alpha at best with none of the features that you use and IDE to obtain. It&#039;s less than useless and I honestly regret taking all the time to try and get it to run.

Plain Ruby (non-Rails) worked better for me in Netbeans, but then I ran into the fact that debugging in Netbeans simply doesn&#039;t exist. There is a half-hearted attempt at it, but it does nothing useful other than allow you to step through your code. Variable inspection, watch points, etc may as well not exist and so many debugging features just simply don&#039;t work, aren&#039;t available or simply are not implemented.

The best solution for Linux-based Rails programming that I have so far is the good old fashioned vi text editor and google on hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used 3rd Rail and Netbeans.</p>
<p>3rd Rail: This was by far the most promising when Borland created it but what&#8217;s killed it is the stuff that is wrapped around the Java to ensure licenses are paid. This breaks the Java and on my Ubuntu 64 bit system means that for me both JBuilder (which I loved using) and 3rd Rail were killed off completely. Which is a huge pity because these two IDEs are absolutely awesome. 3rd Rail in particular could have been the only player in town IMHO.</p>
<p>Netbeans. Well, what can I say? I tried and tried to get 6.5.1 to work properly but, the bottom line, is that Netbeans is a Java development environment with Ruby rammed onto it. It doesn&#8217;t do just about everything that you would expect an IDE to do. Effectively you have a not-great text editor with context sensitive code completion that is basic at best, nowhere near, for example, the stellar implementation in JBuilder or 3rd Rail.</p>
<p>Then there are all the problems with trying to run JRuby in it. In short, forget it. Doesn&#8217;t work. Creating a project simply doesn&#8217;t work. The gems system is broken. In fact, it all is. I have spent weeks upon weeks hunting down obscure errors, misleading output and minimal help online trying to get the most basic of Rails projects created. I succeeded in getting one project shoe horned into existence but only through effectively bypassing everything and anything from the IDE side, hand cranking the creation at the command line and fixing things in vi.</p>
<p>Netbeans does have Rails support, yes. But in version 6.5.1 it is pre-alpha at best with none of the features that you use and IDE to obtain. It&#8217;s less than useless and I honestly regret taking all the time to try and get it to run.</p>
<p>Plain Ruby (non-Rails) worked better for me in Netbeans, but then I ran into the fact that debugging in Netbeans simply doesn&#8217;t exist. There is a half-hearted attempt at it, but it does nothing useful other than allow you to step through your code. Variable inspection, watch points, etc may as well not exist and so many debugging features just simply don&#8217;t work, aren&#8217;t available or simply are not implemented.</p>
<p>The best solution for Linux-based Rails programming that I have so far is the good old fashioned vi text editor and google on hand.</p>
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		<title>By: tomazzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomazzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, most of the cross-platforms Rails IDE are - no surprise - written in Java. That is why they are performance hogs and don&#039;t look quite compelling (2 best characteristics of Java mind you).

So you should go for a Vim equivalent and a command prompt. On MacOS, that means TextMate and Terminal and if you&#039;re not on MacOS then, well, good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, most of the cross-platforms Rails IDE are &#8211; no surprise &#8211; written in Java. That is why they are performance hogs and don&#8217;t look quite compelling (2 best characteristics of Java mind you).</p>
<p>So you should go for a Vim equivalent and a command prompt. On MacOS, that means TextMate and Terminal and if you&#8217;re not on MacOS then, well, good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: makkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>makkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went for VimMate, as i like Vims capability to highlight everything i ever open. With some plugins it gets as functional as an IDE could be including greate and fast code completion and  snippets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went for VimMate, as i like Vims capability to highlight everything i ever open. With some plugins it gets as functional as an IDE could be including greate and fast code completion and  snippets.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify my last comment, I am referring to context sensitive completion that give a list of class attributes after typing the dot after a class name or instance.  I know that this is complicated by not having variable types, but it could be done for many scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify my last comment, I am referring to context sensitive completion that give a list of class attributes after typing the dot after a class name or instance.  I know that this is complicated by not having variable types, but it could be done for many scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been almost a year since I tried the IDEs for rails.  Coming from a Turbo Pascal, C++ Builder, Delphi, MS Visual Studio background, I really wanted a nice IDE and tried every one that I could find last year; but I didn&#039;t like any of them at that time.  They all seemed bloated and needed more time to learn them than I needed to learn Ruby and Rails.

I love TextMate and definitely recommend it.  Between in and the Mac terminal, I tend to get things done quickly.  The only negative for me is the lack of code completion, but none of the IDEs that I tried had useful code completion, so nothing lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been almost a year since I tried the IDEs for rails.  Coming from a Turbo Pascal, C++ Builder, Delphi, MS Visual Studio background, I really wanted a nice IDE and tried every one that I could find last year; but I didn&#8217;t like any of them at that time.  They all seemed bloated and needed more time to learn them than I needed to learn Ruby and Rails.</p>
<p>I love TextMate and definitely recommend it.  Between in and the Mac terminal, I tend to get things done quickly.  The only negative for me is the lack of code completion, but none of the IDEs that I tried had useful code completion, so nothing lost.</p>
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